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Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:55 am

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Continuation of posting on page 13

Back to the centerboard trunk. I have still not placed the outboard side of the trunk in position. I drilled a 1/2 inch hole through the forward cleat for the up-haul line. Measured the distance from the centerboard pin hole in the centerboard to the upper corner of the board where it will sit when fully retracted and placed hole accordingly. Drilled 1/8 inch pilot hole first then used forstner bit from each side.


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File comment: I am sure there is some way of flaring copper pipe in place but could not figure that one out. I bought a foot of 1/2 copper pipe, cut it into 2 six inch pieces and then went off to the local tool rental shop for a flaring tool. Flared both ends of both pieces so I could afford to wreck a few pieces. $2 for the pipe and $6 to rent the tool. Now of coarse have to cut the pipe to have a flare at either end. Beveled ends of holes to hold flares and cut to length so they ends just touched. Glued in place with thickened epoxy. Some excess did ooze through join in pipe ends so smoothed that out to ensure a seal.
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File comment: Flared copper pipe coming out through front of bulkhead 4
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File comment: Aft section inside centerboard trunk. Edges sealed and covered with epoxy fillet
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Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:05 pm

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Dan -

An excellent solution. I too was puzzled when it came to that stage on SCAMP #1.
It was the day before first launch and of course the trunk was only accessible from the top.

Like you, I had one end flared on a 2 - 3" piece which I inserted in through the trunk side where there was a correctly sized recess for the flare, liberally coated with 5-min epoxy glue. The channel was likewise saturated with glue. After it had set up, I trimmed the forward end of the tube proud by about 3/16". I had also perviously placed a recess on that side. Then, backing the aft end with a ball-peen hammer head and using a similar hammer on the other end, was able to more-or-less flare the forward part of the tube. We used a copper pipe that was about 1/4" I.D.

Needless to say, on my build I'm going to use your more elegant technique!

Cheers,
Simeon


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Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:01 pm

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A little trick with copper. Flare one end as above then heat or anneal the copper on the other end. (red hot then quench with water) This softens the copper. Pace the copper in the hole and using a tapered punch on the straight end and holding back on the tapered end, tap lightly until the copper starts to flare ,then use the ball peen hammer to finish the flare. As you work the copper it gets hard again. Don't forget to taper the wood under the flare. You can coat the copper after sanding with you wifes clear nail polish. It's good to get her involved hee hee.



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Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:45 am

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Thanks guys. Will have to try the annealing bit next time I use copper tubing. July was a right off as far as building goes but now getting back at it. Finished fiberglassing the top and bottom of the mast box. Installed the bushings for the centerboard pin and epoxied the outboard side of the centerboard case in place. Will post photos in near future.
QUESTION on the transom. There is a doubler in the center and then comments on doublers for a motor mount on the port side and for a boarding ladder on starboard. Any reason, other than a slight increase in weight, not to double the entire transom? Just appeals to me from an appearance point of view vs a bunch of edges showing.

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Dan



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Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:25 am

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I think weight would be the answer there.



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Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:24 pm

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That is exactly what I did,doubled the transom. 1/2" and 1/4" for a 3/4" transom. I won't be racing so the little extra weight won't matter. It made it simpler for me.

I used a lot of painters tape for the fillets that worked slick. I got that idea from you ,so thanks. I looked over how you did the mast trunk and I made a slight change. I put the starboard and the port side on first and fillet the insides. The forward piece was put on last and then filleted. That way I could see what I was doing. Some times my big hands were a little contorted but it finally worked out.



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Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:18 pm

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The smaller the boat the greater the effect of any amount of unnecessary additional weight. If you want to build a pig, start by adding a bit here and a little there...
Lesson learned the hard way!
Cheers!



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Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:30 pm

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Some photos of glassing the top and bottom of the mast box


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File comment: Glass on the top of the mast box that protrudes through the roof. You can also see the glass on the front corners. the fiberglass extends over the top edge as well
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File comment: Mast box top with fiberglass sanded down. One of the advantages of using the white pigment in the second epoxy coat is that you can tell when you are sanding through that layer leaving the clear epoxy underneath exposed - ie before you sand down to bare wood. It also tends to show up every run in the epoxy. I found a detail sander for 75% off and its triangular sanding head works great for sanding down these hard to reach areas
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File comment: I also glassed the bottom edge of the box. Again the detail sander made cleaning this up a breeze.
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Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:54 pm

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Next up were the centerboard pin bushings. The fitting and gluing of the bushings was all done prior to gluing in the outboard case.


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File comment: The inboard bushing was cut down to just slightly shorter than the width of the centerboard case and doubler. It was epoxied in placed with thickened epoxy which also covered the ends of the bushing flush to the case. I was hoping this would help ensure that water cannot penetrate
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File comment: I tried something different with the outboard bushing. One of the questions was how to support the washers on either side of the centerboard. Well it turns out that the standard length bushing is exactly the length of the centerboard case, its doubler and a single 1/8 nylon washer. I enlarged the hole on the washer to fit over the bushing as shown. Of course I thought of this after the other side was done.
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File comment: Top view of washer on bushing
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Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:10 pm

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:( Here is where I made things complicated. For whatever reason, my carefully lined up holes did not line up so I over-drilled the hole on the outboard case and doubler. Hopefully my fix makes sense in the series of photos.


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File comment: So I know have a solid bushing inboard and a rather big hole on the inboard. To make sure everything lines up in the end I placed the centerboard in position with the pin extending from inboard to outboard as shown. I then placed long cedar wedges on either side of the centerboard top and bottom to make sure both the centerboard and its case were square and lined up. The bushing was now held by the pin, slightly off center in the hole on the outboard case (remember that the original holes did not line up)
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File comment: Sorry for the blurry picture. I packed the space around the bushing on the outboard surface of the case with fillet style epoxy and allowed everything to set overnight
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